On Sunday’s Meet the Press on NBC, anchor Chuck Todd seemed to be hoping for the Republican Party to be punished in the upcoming midterm elections for what he claims is “overreaching” in the culture wars.
His assembled panel was remarked upon by the leftist host “one hallmark of the culture wars in this country is the party that overreaches is who gets punished”He asked him again “are we at a tipping point here where the right’s overreaching?”
Responding to Todd’s fantasy that protecting children from being sexually indocrtinated is somehow “overreaching” and that the overwelming majority of parents in the United States are somehow for lessons on sexuality in Kindergarten, former Republican Florida Congressman Carlos Curbelo set him straight: “right now Republicans are winning the culture wars in this country. That’s just the way it is.”
Curbello continued schooling Todd:
Defunding police is like defunding ICE. Florida now has the parental empowerment bill. Opponents call it “the don’t tell gay bill” Republicans have basically baited Democrats in Florida into taking the position that students in K-3 students who are learning to color and read and write should be taught about sexuality, about gender identity.So I think Democrats have consistently been at least perceived to be on the wrong side of these issues, and Republicans are going to keep going to the well everytime and for Ron DeSantis, if he runs in 24’, he’s going to run on these issues.
Todd took that to be conservatives baiting Leftists instead of the fact that his side was losing the argument. “Carlos makes a good point about how the right is so good at baiting the left”
Having no sense of irony at all, Todd said with a straight face that Republicans are the ones who want to know what children’s gender is, and demanded that they get out of children’s bedrooms hilariously claiming “this is government telling–saying they want to look in your — they want to know what your kid’s gender is. Get out of my kid’s bedroom”
Todd must’ve forgotten for a moment that DeSantis is the one who wants to let kids be kids and not force them to learn about gender identity at a young age.
Later on in the segment, correspondent Josh Lederman wailed that “Democrats allow their messaging to almost be defined by the other side” and bemoaned the fact that Republicans have successfully controlled the narrative and remarked that “if you were to ask the average parent of a first grader, do you want your kid to be taught about sex in first grade? Most parents would probably say ew, probably not.”
Lederman continued his whining “if you asked, is it okay for your kid to be read a book about Peter the Penguin who has two Penguin dads, you’re not going to have the same kind of response. But Democrats have kind of ceded the argument on this on so many of these cultural issues.”
Curbelo to Lederman’s meltdown by remarking “this is why Democrats are losing working class voters, latino voters, because they seem so disconnected.”
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NBC’s Meet the Press
CHUCK TODD We said that the culture wars are heating up. Carlos is our state, Florida, has been the center of some of the action. The Governor DeSantis used the legislature almost as his primary vehicle in 2024. But now, there are a lot more copycat legislations. Here are the headlines from what critics call this “don’t say homosexual bill”, which relates to when gay parents can be discussed in schools in Alabama, Texas and Ohio. It is clear that the one party that is too big is punished in the culture wars. Are we at a tipping point here where the right’s overreaching?
CARLOS CURBELO : Chuck, the moment is right for Republicans to win in culture wars. It’s the truth. Defunding police is like defunding ICE. Florida has a parental empowerment bill. Opponents call it “the don’t tell gay bill”. Republicans in Florida have effectively baited Democrats into believing that K-3 students should learn about the sexuality and gender identity of their classmates. So I think Democrats have consistently been at least perceived to be on the wrong side of these issues, and Republicans are going to keep going to the well everytime and for Ron DeSantis, if he runs in 24’, he’s going to run on these issues.
TODD: Kimberly makes an excellent point about Carlos’s ability to bait the left into defending a particular.
KIMBERLY ATTKINS STOHR, Yep.
TODD: This bill is supported by about 50% of the population. It’s not decisive in either direction.
STOHR – Also, the polling is very scattered. This makes it very hard to conduct polls.
STOHR: But that’s right, Republicans saw, they see the win in the Gubernatorial race in Virginia and they say that this is how they can just take this playbook over and over and over again, and Democrats haven’t found any way to message it. The first issue with DeSantis going up against Disney? If the Republicans rail against cancel culture, it’s because if someone is penalized for saying something, they are anti-first amendment. Legally, the Democrats are on the winning side in this. Yet you haven’t heard it.
TODD: Anna. It is amazing to me that Democrats have not seized on a libertarian attack. This is because this is large government telling people what they should do. This is government telling–saying they want to look in your — they want to know what your kid’s gender is. You must get out of the bedroom with my child.
ANNA PALMER: But that’s time and again what we’re seeing Republicans do right now whether what’s happening with abortion and all these other cases. Democrats have lost their way, particularly in regard to school and COVID/mask requirements. Yes, you have easy slogans to use in rebuttal but the Democrats are not able to find an animating slogan that will evoke public sympathy.
JOSH LDERMAN: We’re seeing time after again that Democrats let their messaging be almost defined by the opposing side. This makes it so difficult for them to get out. This is because the problem with polling about this mirrors the problems Democrats have with messaging. Asking a typical first-grader’s parent, would you allow your child to learn about sex at first grade? Most parents would probably say “ew, probably not.” But if you asked, is it okay for your kid to be read a book about Peter the Penguin who has two Penguin dads, you’re not going to have the same kind of response. However, Democrats have given up the fight on many cultural matters.
CURBELO. This is one reason Democrats are losing Latino voters as well as working-class voters. Many of the Democratic Party’s messaging stems from the Progressive Party base. That messaging is not connecting with Latino voters or working class voters. These numbers will continue to fall as long the Democrats are perceived as being on that side.