Indiana abortionist Dr. Caitlin Bern has been a symbol of the new post-abortion world since she performed an abort on a 10-year old Ohioan rape victim.Roe pro-abortion movement. Neue Day co-host Brianna Keilar interviewed Bernard on Friday morning to voice her opposition to Indiana’s pending abortion bill, despite the bill containing exceptions for cases of rape, incest, and the life of the mother (the most commonly accepted exceptions).
Keilar then played the interview. The bill’s contents can be read by clicking here. She began by asking Dr. Bernard, “You’ve treated many patients who would fall into these categories. What do you think is the problem in relying only on exceptions??”
Interesting wording. Keilar didn’t ask what Dr. Bernard thought of the exceptions, nor even why she personally thought the exceptions were a problem, but “what, to you, is the problem,” implying that the exceptions are inherently problematic.
Bernard’s answer played both sides of the question, saying, “medicine is not about exceptions. I can’t even begin to tell you how many patients I see in very unique situations — uh, that can’t fit into those exceptions, that can’t have a list of what I can and can’t do.” And immediately followed up with, “You know, the other part of this is this is going to exclude 98 percent of people who need abortions in Indiana.”
When asked if she regularly sees patients who would meet the exceptions within the Indiana law, Bernard responded, “Absolutely. Every day I get a consultation for a patient who has — you know, a — a condition that fits into those exceptions.”
On the question of enforcing the exceptions, Bernard fretted the laws would cause doctors to second-guess themselves when the mother’s life is in danger, “The impact on the physicians means that they can’t take care of patients the way that they need to be able to and patients will be hurt.”
This line has been repeated ad nauseam by abortion advocates and their allies in the media, but it doesn’t apply at all in this case because, again, the law in question makes an exception to save the life of the mother. Simply put, doctors must not have understood the implications of laws that directly impact their practice.
Keilar’s final questions consisted of getting Bernard’s opinion on the recent Kansas abortion vote and if the Biden administration could be doing more to preserve access to abortion, which she answered by parroting the new favorite abortion defense on the left, claiming, “You know, again, I think people are beginning to realize that — you know, the Supreme Court took away a fundamental right. It’s not only the right of abortion; it also includes the right for private medical decisions.”
Or, did the Court decide that the Court cannot explain away the decision to take unborn baby’s life as a private medical decision and not abolish the entire category?
The pro-abortion movement laments when a prolife bill mandates total abortion ban. However, if a prolife bill allows for exceptions to rape and incest as well as the life of the mother it becomes an issue of medical privacy. Both sides will be promoted by the liberal media whenever it is possible.
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CNN’s Neue Day
08/05/22
7:47.52 AM ETBRIANNA KEILAR – Indiana is now closer to a bill banning abortion in all stages of pregnancy. There are exceptions. Senate approved the version with exceptions for incest, rape and when the pregnancy is in danger. These exceptions are still in the House bill. The final House vote will take place today, before the bill is sent back to the Senate for approval or denial.
I had spoken to Dr. Caitlin Bern, Indianapolis OB/GYN. Her name is Dr. Caitlin Bernard, who performed a medically-induced abortion on a Ohio rape victim aged 10.
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KEILAR : Hello doctor. We are so grateful that you were here this morning. You are watching the Indiana bill move on to the House, where it relies upon exceptions for rape. You can also get exceptions to protect the mother’s life.
Many patients would fit into this category have you treated. What do you think is the problem in relying only on these exceptions?
DR. CAITLIN BEERNARD: Yes, I am glad you had me.
Medicine isn’t about making exceptions. I can’t even begin to tell you how many patients I see in very unique situations — uh, that can’t fit into those exceptions, that can’t have a list of what I can and can’t do. Their lawyer is eager to help them. It’s a pleasure to meet with my lawyer. I must be able take care of my patients wherever and whenever they need it.
This will also exclude 98 percent Indianans who have to get abortions. This is going to be very, very — um, restrictive and it’s going to hurt Hoosier women.
KEILAR: How often do you see patients who are — are — would fit under these umbrellas for rape or for incest, or for their health or their life being in danger? Is this — is this pretty regular?
BERNARD: Absolutely. Every day I get a consultation for a patient who has — you know, a — a condition that fits into those exceptions.
KEILAR: How do things change when it comes — or how do you worry things may change when it comes to enforcing those exceptions?
BERNARD
Doctors can be very scared to face patients who don’t know what to do. You can prevent hemorhage. You are able to avoid infection. Their lives can be saved by you. And yet, you’re wondering well, who’s going to — who do I have to check with? Who’s going to second-guess me?
Do I call my lawyer? Do I contact the county prosecutor You know — is this going to go to the state attorney general, which we know can be incredibly dangerous for physicians, as I’ve experienced? Um — and we don’t know the answer to that, and that’s one of the things that’s making this such a difficult process for patients, right?
This will have a negative impact on physicians and cause patients to suffer.
KEILAR: In Kansas, where we just saw voters with record turnout say no, they do not want to pave the way for there to be restrictions on abortion — for there to be a ban on abortion, to eliminate access there — what is your reaction to seeing how that shaped up?
BERNARD
Politicians have absolutely no space in making medical decisions or in instructing people how to — you know, make those medical decisions and — um, Kansas showed that. That’s true also in Indiana. We think the legislature ought to hear that.
KEILAR : What do you think will drive voters to the abortion issue? Here are the midterm elections. Kansas has shown us what can happen. What do you believe it will do to them?
BERNARD: You know, again, I think people are beginning to realize that — you know, the Supreme Court took away a fundamental right. The right to choose your own medical treatment. When this happens, many people start to see that it’s not something they wish for. They don’t want that for their family, their daughters or their wives.
Um, and I — I think people will begin to realize that — you know, the right to privacy is something that every person should have. It doesn’t have to do party. It does not have anything to do with red-blue partisanship. It’s something that everybody needs — um, for their own health and safety. And so, I hope that people will begin to realize — you know, that — um, legislatures, politicians who stand up for that — those rights — the right of privacy in your medical decision-making is something that they want to preserve and — and people that they will vote for.
KEILAR. President Biden signed an executive ordering that allows Medicaid to pay the costs of abortion-related travel outside of the state. Do you think there is anything else the Biden government should do?
BERNARD: I think — you know, there’s nothing that they can do — you know, in executive orders or other actions — um, that will be able to bring back the right that the Supreme Court has taken away for us to be able to make private medical decisions. It is essential that physicians are able and able take care of patients where and when they require it. No executive order will be able or allow them to do so.
KEILAR : Thank you Dr. Caitlin Bern for joining us today.
BERNARD : I am very grateful.
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