“Yes, the Supreme Court just made a decision that guns are more important than these young women and their lives… I think we’re going to have a revolution of sorts,” Jennifer Siebel Newsom, producer and director of “Fair Play,” a recent documentary on gender roles within a heterosexual relationship, proclaimed on Sunday night’s CNN Newsroom.
Host Pamela Brown welcomed both Newsom and the author of “Fair Play,” Eve Rodsky onto the show to discuss their recent documentary. The conversation quickly changed to that of “the main ways” that women have found a way into society by “managing their own fertility.”
Brown was immediately interested in the question of how Rodsky and Newsom would overturn their previous decisions. Roe V. WadeThis will have an impact on women at home, as it is related to gender roles projected by these women in their film.
Harm was their conclusion, since “the patriarchy is still at work and still in control in our country, and unfortunately, the Highest Court in our country.”
Newsom boldly stated, as Americans, “We still don’t value the family. We don’t even have – you now, recognize women and the family and the Constitution. And women are now relegated to second-class citizenhood.”
Rodsky, nodding in agreement, added on saying, “this is not about the babies… we know that this is really about power and control and really, it comes down to what we’re talking about in this film, that women are the social safety net for this country… we’re making them be the breadwinners for the family. We’re making them do the super majority of childcare and housework in their homes.”
Circling back to the topic of the film, Rodsky expressed the idea behind the book that “we start to invite men to their full power in the home, so that women can step into their full power in the world… what this film does is show the benefits.”
Diagnosing men in the home, Newsom stated that “men doing their fair share at home… if men did 50 more minutes of care work and domestic work a day, they would have less depression, less anxiety… they’d be happier… they’d have a better sex life.”
Newsom makes the point that since these women will have “less access to control our own reproduction, and we will have more forced births, then we’re going to have more caregivers and we’re going to have more mothers continuing to burn out at the pace that we’re putting them at.”
According to experts, the rights of abortion are essential for women to control their fertility. Women should be able to have a healthy relationship with men and not feel forced to have sex.
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CNN Newsroom with Pamela Brown
06/26/22
Eastern, 7:50:41
PAMELA BROWN – Eve Rodsky (author of Fair Play) and Jennifer Siebel Newsom (director, writer, and producer) are joining me.
Hi, ladies. Wow. That trailer was amazing.
Jennifer and I arranged this meeting before the Supreme Court’s Friday decision. Roe v. WadeIt’s important that I mention the fact that women are able to manage their fertility and find agency in society.
How do you feel about it? How would you feel if this ability were lost or compromised?
JENNIFER SIEBEL NEWSOM (write, producer, and director, “Fair Play”): No. We are grateful that you brought us into the dark reality of this new, terrible reality. It’s a scary time for many Americans. Unfortunately, this is yet another example of women being controlled and punished by an extremist far right agenda. This is also an evangelical agenda.
We’re now going to have to pay. Yet, we are not being paid fairly. The country doesn’t offer universal sick or paid family or childcare leave, nor does it have universal pay for all. So we are still struggling?
Family is not something we still value. It’s not even possible to recognize the Constitution and women. Now, women have been reduced to second-class citizenhood.
It’s an extremely dark period in history, and it will be very costly for women and their families. This set us back 150 year.
BROWN: Yes. BROWN: Yes. We have been fighting this for 50 years. Now, Eve is seeing Justice Thomas’ concurrence and even wanting to reexamine the right to contraception.
How do you feel about this?
EVE RODSKY (author “Fair Play”) : Well, I think that this is not about babies. If this were all about babies then America would have universal child care, paid family leave, and everyone would want to be able to access schools after 2:30. However, power and control is what this movie really focuses on.
We will see more of our caregivers as we lose control over our reproductive process. This means that there will be more forced babies.
They will be their breadwinners. They will be responsible for the majority of their childcare and household chores. We made them homeschool their kids during the pandemic. It’s unsustainable, actually. It’s incredibly inexplicable.
BROWN, Let’s discuss a bit about this documentary. This started off as a spreadsheet. It then turned into a book. Since decades, women in modern times have talked about the unequal divisions of labor. The needle hasn’t moved nearly as quickly as some women think it should.
We still live in patriarchal societies, it is a fact. How is that going to change, especially after Eve’s abortion decision?
RODSKY? Well, the only way that it will change is for men to take full control in their own homes so that women have the power to make the right decisions in their lives. This film shows you the advantages.
These are not chores, housework or who washes the dishes. What was the first person to teach us how to ride a bike. With whom did we go grocery shopping? With whom did we make our meals?
Our true humanity is found in the unskilled labor that our society provides. This is also where we receive our love. This is where we make our memories. It’s where we get our memories.
RODSKY – Because I began to question leaders about whether an hour at work in the boardroom was as important as one spent holding your child’s hands at the doctor’s office. Which do you think is more important for society?
BROWN: Jennifer. I’d like to invite you back. BROWN: Jennifer, I want to bring you back in.
NEWSOM: First, it had to be more relatable to men. Men don’t gravitate to books that look like they’re only meant for women. So, I am certain that Eve is mad.
This film is a must-see for both couples and for everyone. It’s poignant. It’s educational. It’s inspirational. While it may be painful, this film is inspiring.
So I believe this movie can compliment the book. They are, after all, different. Therefore, I recommend reading the book. Then I recommend taking your spouse to see it.
You were referring to the past, but I want me to mention one thing. My hope right now, though, is that many young mothers aren’t aware of how lucky they really are.
This is when you begin to say, “Ooh,” or that you don’t get paid fairly.
These young girls are so angry that you cannot put the genie back into their bottle. These young girls are angry and the fathers of their daughters are angry too. The Supreme Court has decided that guns and young women’s lives are far more important than their guns.
It seems like we are going to see a change of pace, which I am hopeful for. We all need to awaken to the reality behind what is happening. As we said, this was planned and men are doing more at home. If they did 50 minutes more of domestic and carework per day, it would result in less depression and anxiety. Their dependence on prescription meds would decrease.
They would be happier. They would live longer. They would have better sex. They would have better marriages.
They would enjoy the same benefits as their wives, less stress and depression, less mental load and more time for leisure, and better cognitive development. Their relationships would be healthier and they’d have fewer problems with their peers.
There are many advantages to having men take care of their children at home. 50 minutes more per day, or 40% of domestic and child work.
BROWN: My husband would argue that I have been doing this for a while, but these are the benefits I have not yet seen.
Thanks, Eve and Jennifer.
We will be back.
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