MSNBC’s ReidOut Joy Reid is the host Shown in 2021She was unrelenting with her use of incendiary and dangerous rhetoric. So it wasn’t surprising that on Tuesday evening, Dr. Fauci critics were argued. “pro-Omicron armchair physicians” Unvaccinated Americans should be paid less and receive less medical attention when they are sick than those who have been vaccinated.
Joined in the endorsement of communism was MSNBC medical contributor Dr. Lipi Roy, who donned a “Fauci” t-shirt to prove her seriousness as a doctor while the two suggested Fauci critic and Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) wasn’t a true doctor because of his accreditation and “insane, atrocious vitriol.”
Reid began the segment by introducing soundbites from Fauci denouncing Paul, and critics who wreit large about his threats to life and the use of the past two years. “for…political gain”Reid lamented that Reid’s complaint was evidence of “Republican endgame: playing politicsWith people’s lives” with “pro-Omicron armchair physicians” Fauci was allegedly being harassed (when they ought to be following his lead).
Roy lamented it, Reid said so. “we’re not having a rational conversation about this pandemic anymore”Due to people who have not been vaccinated and the demand “those of us who are rational about it”They must find their way of living on their own.
Roy brought up the Fauci-vs. Paul matter first, and she said that it was her. “shocked” by it and that Paul’s not a real physician “because he does not exude any of the qualities that doctors and nurses possess, empathy, compassion, and a penchant for science and data to drive health care policies.”
His generosity was a major reason. “insane, atrocious vitriol directed towards a lifetime public servant…like Dr. Fauci,” Roy added it’s led “people like me and my fellow health care professionals double down on what we are doing.”
Reid responded that Paul was a fake physician, and argued that he “create[d] his own accreditation” And “didn’t get it from, like, a regular place,” So “I wouldn’t let him operate on me if I was desperate.”
After the discussion moved on to the topic of rationing, the conversation turned to examples of ways to penalize the unvaccinated. These include fines for forcing unvaccinated persons to pay Covid test in Germany and paying them less at work, like IKEA, U.K. “up to 50 percent more”Companies offer health insurance for smokers just like they do for others.
Roy eventually said she wasn’t going to “giv[e] up on” them, but she largely agreed with Reid that they should be marginalized and placed on “a triage list” so they’re given less attention whenever they become ill (click “expand”):
[T]here are many possible interventions that we can impose on the people who choose — continue to choose to be unvaccinated, increased insurance premiums, creating a list — or a triage list, so when people come to the hospital, maybe one of the first questions we ask is, are you vaccinated, and then that will direct them towards a certain type of care because we already do that. My dad was admitted to the hospital with shortness-of-breath three times over his lifetime. It was caused by congestive cardiac failure. Nearly every visit, the first thing they ask is, “Are you a smoker?”
I mean, he’s not and it didn’t direct the care. But these are — there are several things that we can do. But I’m not giving up on the people that remain unvaccinated, Joy. They still have to be vaccinated. We need other mandates, measures, and measures that will get them vaccinated.
There is no word from Roy or Reid on whether the unvaccinated should not be provided care in case they fall ill with anything other than Covid, or require other treatment such as broken bones and depression.
Reid claimed she is going to have to go on break “given up” and is eager to do all that’s required “people” Who “have done the right thing for two years.”
Finally, she concluded with the following:
At a certain point, the people who have done all the right things need to get to be able to live their lives normally and if people don’t want to get vaccinated, they need to be willing to kick in and pay for their own risk…[Y]Do you want to leap out of an airplane? That risk is your responsibility. Don’t make the rest of us have to pay for it and lose our health system.
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To see the relevant MSNBC transcript from January 11, click “expand.”
MSNBC’s ReidOut
January 11, 2022
Eastern, 7:36JOY REID: Top infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci called out Senator Rand Paul during a congressional hearing today for doing what is clearly the Republican endgame: playing politics with people’s lives. Even though Dr. Fauci was being harassed by pro-Omicron physicians, it is clear what the country faces. Public health officials also gave grim testimony on what lies ahead.
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Eastern, 7:37
REID: I feel like we’re at a point where we’re not having a rational conversation about this pandemic anymore, and where those of us who are rational about it and who don’t want to die from COVID, don’t want to be on a ventilator need to create a life for ourselves that accounts for the people who are refusing to participate in reality, but doesn’t put us at risk to them. Is there a way to do that, because I’m worried that our hospital systems are literally going to collapse?
DR. LIPI ROY: Yeah, happy — happy Tuesday and very cold Tuesday to you, Joy. I watched the hearing that was today, the Senate hearing and Dr. Fauci being attacked by Senator Rand Paul, it — I’m shocked that Dr. — sorry — that Rand Paul was a former physician, because he does not exude any of the qualities that doctors and nurses possess, empathy, compassion, and a penchant for science and data to drive health care policies and for him to go after — I mean, his insane, atrocious vitriol directed towards a lifetime public servant and a highly trained infectious disease doctor like Dr. Fauci, it actually makes people like me and my fellow health care professionals double down on what we are doing, provide high-quality patient care, provide education and advocacy through articles and op-eds and social media. Because it makes us do more of what we’re doing. It seems that Joy and rational people are now the majority. We are the majority. It’s up to us to speak out and act as advocates and activists for this cause. It’s the only way we’re going to get through this pandemic, Joy.
REID: Yeah. Rand Paul, oh by the way. He didn’t get it from, like, a regular place. So that he could become a licensed physician, he just created his own. I wouldn’t let him operate on me if I was desperate. Let’s talk about what other countries are doing, because, at some point, I feel like people who are willfully unvaccinated, fine, don’t get vaccinated. They need to be able to cover some of the costs of this system. There are fines that are — that are levied in places like Germany. Germany stopped paying for vaccines and virus tests. They’ve ended quarantine pay for those without vaccinations. Ikea has slashed sick pay for U.K. workers who are not vaccinated. Insurance companies may charge more if you smoke. You can be charged a premium up to 50%, which you must indicate on your application for insurance. At some point, don’t we have to make people who are just saying, “I’m willing to take the risk to be unvaccinated, take the risk for me and take the risk for everyone I come in contact with,” shouldn’t they have to pay more into the system because they are collapsing our health system? They’re the ones in the ERs. They’re taking it up. If you have a stroke or you have a heart attack, you can’t get in the ER, because they’re taking up all the beds, so shouldn’t they have to pay more?
ROY: Yeah, no, I’m, sadly, aware of what’s happening to hospitals and health care facilities all over the world. Hospitalizations in the United States increased 30 percent this past week and what’s happening is that this atrocious strain, this massive strain on — on hospitals and medical facilities is resulting in hospitals being short-staffed, doctors, nurses getting infected themselves. They’re — they are working long hours. They’re depressed. They’re demoralized and so, there — there are many possible interventions that we can impose on the people who choose — continue to choose to be unvaccinated, increased insurance premiums, creating a list — or a triage list, so when people come to the hospital, maybe one of the first questions we ask is, are you vaccinated, and then that will direct them towards a certain type of care —
REID: Yes.
ROY: — because we already do that. You can be sure that if a patient is suffering from shortness, such as my father, they will admit him to the hospital. This was due to congestive heart disease causing pulmonary embolism. They ask almost always if you smoke.
REID: Yeah.
ROY: I mean, he’s not and it didn’t direct the care. But these are — there are several things that we can do. But I’m not giving up on the people that remain unvaccinated, Joy. It is still necessary to give them vaccines. We need other mandates, measures and measures that will get them vaccinated.
REID: Yeah.
ROY: That’s really, I think, major, Joy.
REID: Mandates. You see, I gave up. I have pretty much — we — I mean, listen, I won’t say I have given up, but I think, at a certain point, we have to prioritize the people have done the right thing for two years, who are exhausted, who are sick of having to accommodate these people who are making other people sick. At a certain point, the people who have done all the right things need to get to be able to live their lives normally and if people don’t want to get vaccinated, they need to be willing to kick in and pay for their own risk. You want to take — you want to jump out of a plane? That risk is yours to take. Don’t make the rest of us have to pay for it and lose our health system. That’s me, not you. You will not be able to do that. That’s on me.
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