CBS Chats With Holder About Plan to SHRED Constitution to Help Dems

The leftist are open Monday CBS Mornings co-host Tony Dokoupil sat down for a softball chat with far-left activist and former Obama Attorney General Eric Holder, promoting the one-time Justice Department chief’s new book that proposes discarding significant portions of the Constitution just to help Democrats seize power. The friendly exchange came just one day after Holder was treated to a similar appearance on Sunday’s Face the Nation.

“Former Attorney General Eric Holder believes our voting rights are in serious danger right now and his new book, The March Unfinished, is a history of voting in this country and a picture of the situation we’re in today, a dark picture at that,”Dokoupil made a threatening announcement at the beginning of the interview. He then cited Holder’s hysteria arguing for the upending of the entire American system of government: “…our warped Senate, our gerrymandered House, our malapportioned Electoral College and our politicized Supreme Court – which are the reasons America is a democracy in need of serious renovation…”

 

 

Turning to Holder, Dokoupil observed: “You describe a picture of American democracy, flawed in all three branches of government and I want to get to that and the solutions, but I want to begin with the judicial branch.” He then predictably fretted over the leaked draft opinion suggesting the Supreme Court was preparing to overturn Roe v. Wade: “If Roe is overturned, and abortion rights are no longer guaranteed in this country, you would support the end of the filibuster to pass a law providing access.”

Holder urged for Democrats to tear down Senate rules in order to circumvent the high court’s potential ruling:

However, Roe could be overturned and, if the filibuster is resolved, it would become possible to pass a federal law that declares that every woman has the right to make the same reproductive decisions that all Americans support.

I think that’s something we have to understand here. It is likely that the Supreme Court will do something contrary to the will of American citizens, upon which they have depended for 50 years.

“Everything you write about in this book is about making sure majority rules in this country and we have a system at the moment where minority rules in some cases,”Dokoupil claimed. Dokoupil added: “Removing the filibuster would be a way to make sure majority positions take hold.”

However, the host did at least gently challenge his guest: “One criticism would be that it creates a ping-pong effect. Republicans win power and ban access to abortion. Democrats win back power and flip the switch in the opposite direction. What do you say to that?” Holder tried to dismiss the critique: “The ping-pong effect would be modified by the fact that through the electoral process, if a party comes in, takes power, and puts in place positions that are inconsistent, again, with the desires of the American people, they get voted out.”

Dokoupil wondered if Holder’s current successor could disregard the Court overturning Roe: “Before we move on, I have to ask, as a former Attorney General, would Merrick Garland have any options that you see if Roe is overturned?” Holder suggested that was a “possibility,” but ultimately concluded: “I think the real rejoinder to any decision that the Court might make would be federal legislation.”

Dokoupil is a Holder, and they are changing the topic. “What do you think the biggest threat is today to voting rights?”Hacking by the Obama Administration:

I think it’s a whole range of things. We see voter suppression, we see gerrymandering. We see a whole range of ways in which you’re trying to keep the will of the American people from being expressed in the ballot box.

This is something that’s not inconsistent with what we have seen before and it’s what I talk about in the book, The March UnfinishedWe have witnessed in the 19th Century and the 18th Century, as well as the 20th Century, efforts made to empower some people while disenfranchising others.

Moving on to the subject of gerrymandering, Dokoupil rightfully noted: “Both parties do it, right?” Holder rejected that accurate statement: “Well, see, we can’t fall into some notion of equivalency here because in a lot of ways, that’s false….You’re comparing apples and oranges in a lot of ways.” He then wailed: “I’m committed to fighting for fairness because I’m also confident that The Democrats, and all progressives, will win if it is fair. We don’t have to cheat. Republicans have to cheat in order to win.”

Dokoupil’s only response to that incendiary comment: “I think they would disagree, but that’s strong statement there.”Holder will not be able to verify the claims or require evidence.

The anchor then listed more of Holder’s extreme, partisan agenda:

There are many strong ideas within the book. To increase the majority rule of this country, some of your proposals would include limiting the Supreme Court justices to term, and to meter the Presidents’ appointment. Puerto Rico, and D.C. are two additional states you want.

You might find some ideas in this book to be radical. Is there any that you feel we should pay attention to right now or could accomplish?

Holder assured him: “If we say they’re possible and work towards them, we can make it happen” Dokoupli wrapped up the segment by gushing: “And Mr. Attorney General, I now understand why you end the book an idealist.”Holder responded: “Yes, I’m an idealist because I believe in the American experiment, I believe in this country.”

Holder is not a believer in this country. Instead, he would like to reform the Constitution to ensure that Democrats take and hold power regardless of what. Holder would probably propose radical new proposals to stop his party from losing another election if they were in imminent danger.

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The complete transcript from the interview on May 9, 2009 is available here:

7:30 AM ET

TONY DOKOUPIL – Former Attorney General Eric Holder thinks our voting rights may be in grave danger. His new book, The March Unfinished, is a history of voting in this country and a picture of the situation we’re in today, a dark picture at that. He describes, quote, “our warped Senate, our gerrymandered House, our malapportioned Electoral College and our politicized Supreme Court – which are the reasons America is a democracy in need of serious renovation,” close quote.

Holder heads the National Democratic Redistricting Committee which contests electoral maps. He is now joining us. We are grateful to you, Mr. AttorneyGeneral.

ERIC HOLDER, Thanks for your time.

[ON-SCREEN HEADLINE: “Our Unfinished March”; Former AG Eric Holder Says Voting Rights Are In Trouble In New Book]

TONY DOKOUPIL – You have described a picture American democracy that is flawed in each of the three branches. I would like to find the causes and solutions to this problem, but first I need to address the judiciary. You would vote to end the filibuster if Roe is overturned and that abortion rights in the country are not guaranteed.

Let me know how you think that would work.

HOLDER: Yeah, I think that what’s likely to happen is that the decision may actually occur that Roe is overturned, I suspect the language that you saw in the leaked legal opinion will not appear, that’s caustic. The argument is too hot.

However, Roe could be overturned and, if the filibuster is resolved, it would become possible to pass a federal law that declares that every woman has the right to make the same reproductive decisions that all Americans support.

I think that’s something we have to understand here. It is likely that the Supreme Court will do something contrary to the will of American citizens, upon which they have depended for 50 years.

DOKOUPIL It would make it easier for majority positions to be secured by removing the filibuster.

It creates a “ping-pong” effect, which is one criticism. Republicans win power and ban access to abortion. Democrats win back power. They flip the light switch to the other way. How do you react to this?

HOLDER: We have to believe and trust the American people. This ping-pong effect could be altered by the electoral process. If a party is elected to power and places positions that do not align with American citizens’ desires, it gets voted out.

The potential exists for ping-pong. We must believe in American citizens and not debase the systems we’ve put in place. This will allow the American people to direct the direction the country should go.

DOKOUPIL

HOLDER: You know, there’s the possibility, I suppose, of executive actions. However, I feel that federal legislation is the true rejoinder to any Court decisions.

DOKOUPIL: All right, so let’s talk voting rights and voting access. Do you believe voting rights are under threat today?

HOLDER: I think it’s a whole range of things. We see voter suppression, we see gerrymandering. We see a whole range of ways in which you’re trying to keep the will of the American people from being expressed in the ballot box.

This is something that’s not inconsistent with what we have seen before and it’s what I talk about in the book, March is not overHere are some examples of attempts to disenfranchise and empower the few.

However, I believe the most important thing, which I talk about in my book, is how ordinary citizens were able fight off those who wanted to keep power in an inexplicable way and empower American citizens.

Our country’s arc has been to empower people more and give more people the vote. We can continue that trend.

DOKOUPIL. Voting is the only right that can guarantee all other rights. That’s very true. But on the subject of gerrymandering, and you’re committing your career to ending gerrymandering and improving voting access.

Both parties do it, right? How do you convince them to stop fighting?

HOLDER: Well, see, we can’t fall into some notion of equivalency here because in a lot of ways, that’s false. What Princeton University said is what – they looked at the gerrymandering the Republicans did in the last cycle in 2012, and said it was the worst gerrymandering of the last half century.

Now, there have been some maps that Democrats would draw in this cycle that I don’t agree with, New York and Maryland among them, but those pale in comparison to what Republicans have done in Texas, Georgia, potentially, in Florida. You’re comparing apples and oranges in a lot of ways. And I am committed – I’m committed to fighting for fairness because I’m also confident that if the process is fair, the Democrats, progressives will do just fine. We don’t have to cheat. Republicans need to cheat to win.

DOKOUPIL: I think they would disagree, but that’s strong statement there. There are many strong ideas within the book. To increase the majority rule of this country, some of your proposals would include limiting the Supreme Court justices to term, and to meter the President’s appointments. Puerto Rico, and D.C. are two additional states you want.

If you read the book and think some of these ideas may seem extreme, what one do you believe we need to focus on now?

HOLDER : I believe that all these possibilities are within reach. We know that everything seems impossible when you think back to our history. It was necessary to abolish the American system of racial separation. I’m sure Dr. King had moments where he thought, “We can’t pull this off,” and yet they did.

It was unlikely that women would be eligible to vote. Alice Paul, somebody who we don’t talk about an awful lot, led the movement, and now women have the right to vote. So yeah, we could do away with the Electoral College, there’s a way in which you can do it without amending the Constitution.

It is possible to end partisan-gerrymandering. Federal legislation has been considered, and should have been adopted. They are all possible. If we limit ourselves and say they’re impossible, they will never happen. If we say they’re possible and work towards them, we can make it happen.

DOKOUPIL – And, Mr. Attorney General. I understand now why you would call yourself an idealist.

HOLDER: Yes, I’m an idealist because I believe in the American experiment, I believe in this country.

DOKOUPIL: Thank you very much, appreciate you being here.

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