Monday Deadline: White House, MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace was joined by former ABC News analyst Matt Dowd as the two responded to Democratic strategist James Carville blaming the woke left for recent Democratic electoral losses.
Watch Carville’s comments after the clip is played. PBS NewsHour, Wallace picked up on a tweet in which Dowd claimed that Jesus would be considered “woke” as she set up the segment:
Seemingly as a reaction to part of that conversation, our friend Matt Dowd chimed in yesterday on Twitter, tweeting this, quote: “As I sat in church today, I was thinking, if Jesus were here today, he would be accused of being woke. How about we just say it is human decency to treat all with respect and dignity, and that it is constitutional to say all men and women are equal?”
Despite not acknowledging the “woken” nature of leftists, Dowd — currently running for Texas lieutenant Governor as a Democrat — defended this reasoning.
Well, first, I don’t ever think it’s a really good thing for old white guys to use the term “woke,” right, and to frame the reference of that. To me, this is, like, it’s another thing like Critical Race Theory, right, like people say this word, and it’s taken as a pejorative, but there’s no — nobody knows what it means that’s accusing other people of it.
And as I said in my tweet — and I’ve tried to say — how about we just try to treat everybody with decency and respect and a common sense of — that they belong here and, obviously, that all men and women are created equal? We need to do that. The only people that this seems to be afire about is, again, in the sort of right-wing infrastructure ecosystem here and there.
Wallace soon jumped in to repeat the discredited claim pushed by journalists and other liberals that Virginia schools are not exposing children to Critical Race Theory:
So you don’t think education and — which was wrapped up in a whole bunch of things — it wasn’t just this campaign pledge from Glenn Youngkin to ban Critical Race Theory — which isn’t taught in Virginia public schools, but it meant something to Virginia voters. I mean, I hear you, and I said that, and the right went berserk — but Critical Race Theory isn’t taught in schools — it’s an attack that connotes something that isn’t real. This is real for those voters that voted in large numbers in suburbs, and who made substantial margins in rural Virginia for Glenn Youngkin.
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The following is a transcription:
Deadline: White House
November 8, 2021
Eastern at 5:48
NICOLLE WALLACE: That was James Carville in the wake of Election Day last week, blaming Democrats’ wokeness as the reason for their losses across the board and starting a conversation — a very, very vibrant one — about how exactly Democrats have lost some of the good things they had going for them — as Congressman Connolly said earlier in this program, 13-point swing since one year ago.
Seemingly as a reaction to part of that conversation, our friend Matt Dowd chimed in yesterday on Twitter, tweeting this, quote: “As I sat in church today, I was thinking, if Jesus were here today, he would be accused of being woke. How about we just say it is human decency to treat all with respect and dignity, and that it is constitutional to say all men and women are equal?” You can read more about it here. I want to try to nail you down on where you’ve come down on. I think this is probably not a very helpful debate to have about wokeness, but I wonder — I wonder what you think
MATTHEW DOWD, FORMER ABC NEWS ANALYST: Well, first, I don’t ever think it’s a really good thing for old white guys to use the term “woke,” right, and to frame the reference of that. To me, this is, like, it’s another thing like Critical Race Theory, right, like people say this word, and it’s taken as a pejorative, but there’s no — nobody knows what it means that’s accusing other people of it.
And as I said in my tweet — and I’ve tried to say — how about we just try to treat everybody with decency and respect and a common sense of — that they belong here and, obviously, that all men and women are created equal? We need to do that. The only people that this seems to be afire about is, again, in the sort of right-wing infrastructure ecosystem here and there. Democrats must return to the shared values to which every American is connected. That’s what we must have during this conversation.
Terry McAuliffe didn’t lose Virginia to this woke culture. I believe he lost more due to his excessive talk about Donald Trump. This is what I believe the current problem with the voter’s vote is. They desire to win the election. Their perception of Donald Trump has changed. And we know how he appears in these. However, they are curious about your candidacy. How can you tell the difference? Which one are you going in your life? Stop talking about Donald Trump.
WALLACE Critical Race Theory — which isn’t taught in Virginia public schools, but it meant something to Virginia voters. I mean, I hear you, and I said that, and the right went berserk — but Critical Race Theory isn’t taught in schools — it’s an attack that connotes something that isn’t real. This is real for those voters that voted in large numbers in suburbs, and who made substantial margins in rural Virginia for Glenn Youngkin.
DOWD: Well, here’s — this is the problem that I want to — and my candidacy want to try to help Democrats in this — and I said this during the 2004 campaign — any time the other side is using your term, you’re winning in the course of the race. If they use your terminology you are winning this race.
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